Wednesday, 28 August 2024

An idiots guide to betting on football Part 7

Discipline

It's been a good month or more since I wrote my last post and the underlying reason is I've been busy taking my own advice which is rare. Like most people I like to think I'm good at dispensing advice, but all too often I'm guilty of not practising what I preach. Writing several thousand words in regards to betting however has had a profound effect and the hope is of course if you've been reading each part that equally you've started to benefit in the same manner I have. I've not been perfect don't get me wrong, I've still fallen into old traps but the word of the day is discipline. It's weirdly ended up costing me money, but by the same effect it will inevitably save me money if I can stick to it and like Ying and Yang it all balances itseld out in the end. 


It seems simplistic to say don't bet on your team because your judgement is often clouded by emotion. For example I had selected West Ham to beat Palace yesterday at 5/2 away and took it back out of my betting slip. Of course they won 2-0 but I had a quiet word with myself and knew I was betting on a feeling rather than on the basis of data. Last season I'd have ignored my own question and bet it. Yes I'd have been right on this occasion but I'd have found a multitude of occasions where I'd not been right. I only have to look back to the previous weekend where Luton went down to ten men away against Portsmouth and my inclination was to lay the home win after they'd scored 3 against Leeds in the opening game and of course it finished 0-0. I'd bet with a built in expectation rather than based on any data. Regular readers will know I've highlighted that as just one of many big mistakes we all make week in, week out when it comes to football betting. 


Regular readers will be aware that I've been doing several experiments with betting systems. I scrapped the one with the J League the week after it pulled a monster series of wins which might sound ridiculous but firstly I didn't put any weight behind it and secondly if you'd read it you might have been tempted to back it and I've repeated time and time again this guide isn't meant to be a tipping service. It frightens the life out of me to think someone might put money on a specific bet I've suggested let alone on some half baked mathematical principle I've built a spreadsheet around. My aim is for anyone reading this to think about how they're betting before they place a bet. If I can make that change then we're all more than capable. The second one I've been looking at has been only backing odds on bets which has meant I've really had to think about what I'm putting my money on. We're not talking large amounts. Part of my process of thinking has been to do things to scale. Start small to build up. I was ahead and I'm still ahead but not betting on the Euros meant I'd started looking elsewhere to bet my money and I'd laid money out on cricket and the Tour de France so I've drawn a line under the top part and started again with the new season underway and back to purely betting on football which is the entire premise of this guide.  


At this juncture it's probably worth taking the time to reiterate the common argument some people raise against betting odds on, namely if you lose a bet it's harder to win your money back. Let's come back to that word discipline again. If you've researched your bet first of all you're lessening your chances of backing a loser. If you're placing a single bet you've not got multiple legs that can let you down in the same way as you would with an accumulator. Losing an odds on bet is no different to losing an odds against bet. It's all in your mind that there's any sort of difference. They're both losers. Just because you could have won something greater doesn't mean your original stake held more value. Losing £10 to win £100 at 9/1 is still the same £10 you'd have lost to win £15 at ½. Don't listen to anyone who tries to convince you otherwise. Tell them politely you do you and I'll do me. Once you retrain your brain to think smarter with your money you will act smarter with your money. 


Winning your money back from an odds on losing bet doesn't mean you're having to repeat the same process over and over with the stake and the odds. You might lose a 2 /5 one week and back a 5/ 6 with a larger stake the next. The one common ground with all bets is there are no guarantees of a win. That's the second mind switch, knowing when to maximise your opportunity. Be honest with yourself when you're betting and record every bet you make. It's great it you have a £5 accumulator at 10/1 returning you £55 but if that's the only one you've landed in eleven weeks you're back at 0. Well done you've simply covered your losses. You could have 5 well researched £10 bets at ⅕ and been a tenner up. Problem is people would rather gloat about the 10/1 winner and lie to themselves that they've actually won nothing at all over that time period.  


As an indicator of how disciplined I've been this season after three weekends I've bet a total of £0.66 of my own money. My returns for the football season stand at £29.92. Before you call bull shit note I said how much of my own money I've staked and not what free bet offers I've had. Five years ago I could well have been £15 down at the same point. I'm not a huge gambler as these posts will testify but some of you reading this will be. There's a good chance if you're reading this that you are. Also had I been up by the same amount chances are I'd have staked it all back and lost it by now. So I could have been £45 down. I'm probably lying to myself now. There's a chance I'd have chased those losses and I'd have been in the hole for even more money. It's a dangerous spiral we can all find ourselves in far too easily. Remember all those who claim to be making huge amounts from betting on football are doing so on small percentages of huge turnovers of bets. That's a huge risk. I cannot state that enough for anyone reading this. To ruin a line from Fight Club you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and neither are you Tony Bloom. Football betting is not going to make you rich whatever anyone else might tell you. If a professional punter has a losing streak lasting a couple of months that's going to induce worries about keeping a roof over their head, putting food in their kids mouths et al. Since we went digital we've forgotten the value of money. If you're in your home now reading this, take an honest assessment of all the things you own that surround you and ask yourself if you owned none of it, how much of it would you purchase again? I'm willing to bet that for the large majority of you the answer is going to be very little. I know that because there's very little I'd buy again. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I ask that same question but relate it back to the subject matter of football betting. If you could have the money back from every losing bet you ever made if it meant you weren't allowed to ever bet again would you take it? If the answer is yes then you either need to gain a real level of discipline going forward or draw a line in the sand and call it quits. 


You'll be familiar with the concept of FOMO I'm sure - the fear of missing out. What if we were to instead embrace the concept of JOMO - the joy of missing out. If you're spending your weekends or weekday evenings constantly checking on the progress of your bets and looking to cash out if they are going south, firstly you're making the wrong bets. You should be staking at a level you can afford to lose and be confident enough in your selections that you can just let them play out and let the dice fall where they may without checking every five minutes. Dopamine is delivered in two ways, one at the anticipation of what might happen and secondly when something goes your way. It's why gambling can be so addictive and why it's so easy to fall into a costly pattern of betting when it comes to both time and money. You're always chasing something, be it a high or your losses when things go wrong. Secondly there's a huge world out there full of adventure and excitement you're missing out on. So many new things to learn. Time is finite. You're not getting it back. If you're ignoring your partner or your kids and checking your bets instead you've seriously got your priorities wrong. If the amount you're losing has a detrimental effect on them in any way, and you might need to have an honest talk with yourself here, maybe it's time to take a hard look at the situation. Either start to really become disciplined in your approach or just cut your losses full stop. I've pissed away a six figure sum in my life. At the time of writing I'm 46 and I'm ten years sober. That's a frightening statistic. You don't ever want to be sat at my age looking at a similar statistic be that spending on alcohol, drugs or gambling. In some areas of the country that's a three bedroom house. To be fair where I live that's probably a static caravan but hopefully this post provides context and food for thought. We all make mistakes, sometimes it's just better to let others make bigger ones and for you to read about them rather than repeat them for yourself. 


If you use social media across a number of platforms start to have a serious cull. Get rid of anything betting related. What good is it doing if you read a post from someone claiming to have had a big win that you could have had especially when there's probably no proof they actually won it or even if they did they're probably disguising what they also lost betting on over the same period. In my late teens and early 20s girls wore makeup and push up bras and disguised what wasn't necessarily there in the first place and social media is just the modern version of that. Don't believe everything you read and see and more importantly if you're not reading or seeing it in the first place and doing something far better with your life then you'll be in a place to embrace JOMO. 


Hopefully this has given you food for thought. Who needs a life coach when you have me for free. 


SEPTEMBER 14TH UPDATE


I've got to hold my hands up to the fact I've spent hours of my summer pouring away writing these guides to try help people and I quite literally have put myself off betting. Since this part went live on August 28th my total bets with my own money since the start of the season sit at £0.69. Returns £34.29. If you're one of those people who reads the last pages of books first well done you in this example you've saved yourselves a lot of bother cause it turns out the key to betting on football is to not bet at all other than using your freebets of course using the advice dispensed throughout the rest of the guides. You didn't think I was going to give it to you that easily did you? Seriously though I can't believe that I genuinely now have no interest in it. Wow.

Saturday, 20 July 2024

An idiots guide to betting on football Part 6

Unders 

Have you ever tried watching a game of football for 90 minutes whilst desperately hoping it's the worst game you've ever seen? I'm not merely asking if you've sat through a game like that because we all have, but have you willed the outcome to be like that? I'm going to suggest the answer is probably not. Not unless you're early to the party of betting unders and if that's the case why would you put yourself through it when it goes against all your natural instincts? If you support a team and go home and away around the country you're hoping they win, you're willing your team on. Maybe if you follow a smaller team you might be hoping that you don't get thumped so that might be closer to what I'm talking about here.


Bookmakers price their margins into the overs markets because that's naturally where people gravitate to betting their money. You'd be hard pressed to find a punter that wasn't also a fan of the sport they're betting on. Times where that does happen is generally at a point where things are out of control and you're chasing big losses. We watch sports to be entertained, not bored. That's why bookmakers used to put so much money into in-play adverts in the UK before they were banned. They want you being engaged in the game and believing in positive outcomes to be in a position to profit from them. How many times have you said to someone this has 0-0 written all over it? Now think how many adverts would you have seen at half time offering odds of a game to finish 0-0 or under 2.5 goals? You won't have seen them because they didn't exist. It will always have been player X to score first or Team Y to win even when you know in your heart of hearts they're bets not likely to land. You're swept away with the narratives. Super Sunday should be just that, not a tedious 0-0 draw. It's counterintuitive to promote the opposite because punters naturally wouldn't respond to it and of course that's where the winning bets were likely to be coming from at that point. That's where your advantages lay in prices. Bookmakers don't bother with the same margins on the unders because we're all too busy betting the overs, tipsters are saying the best bet is the overs, we want to be entertained like Roman Emperors overseeing gladiatorial combat - both sides should be going in for the kill. I could have said we're all La Roux but that's maybe a little too niche. 


We all have a tendency to overthink games. But football generally goes to type unless one player goes beyond a normal level be that for the better or worse. The forward who scores with every touch Vs the keeper who suddenly couldn't keep a clean sheet if his life depended on it. If you've got the best attack against the best defence the highest probability is that they'll cancel each other out. Whereas the same strong attack against a weak defence should naturally result in more goals. An average attack against an average defence will again most likely result in a low scoring game which is especially true if the same problems exist at both ends for both teams. It's one thing not being able to defend very well but if you've not got the players to take advantage of it then it's not likely to be a high scoring game. 


Let's go back to all those games we've sat through 90 minutes just willing for anything exciting to happen and it never does. You leave the ground miserable, bored and wondering why you bothered. If you thought a game you had no interest in at all was going to finish 0-0 you'd swerve it and not watch it. But what if you're right? About the result not swerving it. This isn't just that ‘feeling’ you might have about a game but mathematically when the data backs up what you're thinking. Why aren't you betting the unders? We've already ascertained the margins aren't built in how they are with the overs so you should get a better price. Regular readers will know we're not putting our money into efficient markets such as the premier league and we're looking lower down the English league pyramid or in smaller leagues abroad. I started in League One to see if I could find good relevant examples last season and there were eight sides at the end of the season who averaged less than 2.5 goals per game and in turn there were 3 sides whose average was exactly 2.5


Let's go back a few posts to how just a few results can skew that data. Sorry again to Port Vale fans but their overall average of 2.5 goals will have included the 7-0 opening day thumping by Barnsley. I'm not suggesting you start betting under 2.5 goals in every game for one team but you can find a market which gives better odds such as league one and start to identify games where it becomes the better bet to back. All those sides will actually have consistent runs of not only being under 2.5 goals but if you discount the oddities (the 7-0 thrashings) that figure on an average game is a lot less than 2.5. Yes you're being counterintuitive to everything you're told to believe about football but you're not about to sit and watch these games. If you're sitting hovering over the cash out option then you're making the wrong bet before the games even kicked off. Do your homework, place your money on the dullest game possible you think will be 0-0 and a good under 2.5 goals bet, put the dog on the lead and go out for a nice long walk and check the results when you get in. Because it goes against every sinew of your body, if you're laying money on these games to go under 2.5 goals do it and instantly put the bet to the back of your mind. Seriously why torture yourself following something? Nothing is guaranteed, you've done your homework and as the Beatles would tell you - let it be. If we all start betting the unders then the bookmakers will adjust their prices accordingly and build in the same margins as they do for overs, but because people don't they'll be the better prices. Just don't torture yourself by going out with a group of friends when the game is on and having money on the unders. That's not me saying bet the overs when you're with your friends, just don't bet the unders on a game you want to be entertained by, it'll be utter torture. If you really fancy the unders then bet it and tell your friends you can't come out because you're washing your hair. If you're right then you've not sat through 90 minutes of awful football and you've not listened to your mates moaning about how bad the game was and you've come out financially better off - Win, win, win. 


Draws 


Bookmakers price their margins into the home win or away win because from a psychological point of view they know punters are placing money akin to why they pay money to go watch a game in person, they want to be entertained. They want games where there's a winner. If you want to watch something balanced you'd go watch the gymnastics. (Again see the above point for avoiding betting in efficient markets such as the Premier League, Serie A, Ligue 1 or Bundesliga.) This means by the simple law of deduction that the majority of value without those higher built-in bookmaker margins will be in betting the draw. You might hear people claim that picking a draw is much harder than picking a home win and you'd probably be right. However there is plenty of value to be had in those inefficient markets such as the J league. In the J League this weekend of the 10 games, the smallest odds on the draw are 3.00 on the decimal or 2/1 with a traditional fraction. Tokyo Verdy have played 12 games at home and drawn 7. Remember that's ten games this round where the worst odds are 2/1. If that was true of every round and Tokyo Verdy were even the smallest price of ten games for a £1 bet you'd have laid out £12 and won £14. That's an ROI of 16.66%. Remember what I said in the last point that a team with an average forward line will struggle to score goals against an average defence? You're once more having to go against your natural thought process which is to find a winner but this guide is about betting better and making smarter choices. 30 years ago all you had was the pools coupon and you'd have to find the score draws to win. 


Most of the TVs sold in the world are made by the same manufacturers but most people don't know that and will look up to the at TV in front of them and now start to wonder how much they've paid over the odds for a brand name TV when they could have brought the same thing underneath for much less without the badge. So betting and life should become about going against what the crowd is doing and finding that value, be that from betting the unders market or betting draws. How many of you reading this have ever had an iPhone on a monthly contract? I know I have. I've not had an iPhone for well over 15 years though. Twice I had two year contracts that by the time I'd basically paid the price of the phone off it wasn't worth shit because the battery would hold a charge for about twenty minutes. I now buy an android phone for £100 which might last me three to four years before I inevitably seem to drop it and smash the screen and my phone contract is £5 a month. I've no idea what the newest iPhone is per month but it wouldn't surprise me if it was £40. Are you getting 8 times the value from your phone than I am? Does your phone cuddle you when you're miserable, does it give you one off the wrist when you're horny? No, of course it doesn't. You might have a better camera on your phone but I'll bet I'm the better photographer and whatever the capabilities of your iPhone over my phone I'll take the better photographs. So why waste your money every month on a phone, or on brand name purchases in general, or backing a team to win when the real value is potentially elsewhere? Change your thinking, change your habits and you'll not only become a more rounded individual but you'll be a better off individual. Betting and life advice all provided for free, what more can you want from a guide?


Recording your bets 


Buy a notebook. Buy two. Or if you're more modern, start a word document and an excel spreadsheet. Whatever format you want to use, make sure you're using at least one. Record every bet you make, record the data that lead you to making the bet, include data that lead you to not making a bet. It's all relevant. If you decided the bet had no value or wasn't likely to win but then came in perhaps you had something you didn't realise. Keeping track of your bets means you're forcing yourself to see how much you've lost but more importantly allow yourself to see if there's a pattern to where you're consistently losing money. Hint - in seasons gone by and before you've come to this guide it will be accumulators, betting the team names not the data, betting on feelings of how a game will go in play or that same feeling of how a game will end up or before the game has kicked off. If you claim you never place losing bets you're either not betting or you're lying. I don't mind you lying to me but lying to yourself is costing you financially. The hope is of course you'll find the turning point from placing losing bets to placing winning bets on a consistent basis. You'll see the patterns of bad judgement Vs good judgement. As Einstein would have told you - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the very definition of insanity. 


There are a multitude of excel sheets you can copy if you want to get really complex about recording your bets. You choose your level of involvement but the minimum requirement is to record the stake, the odds and what the bet was. Show the working out like your maths teacher always told you to do. Remember to work out both sides. Don't simply believe you're on to a sure thing without considering the possibility that you're wrong. 


Now everything is electronic it becomes all the harder to do something as simple as crossing something off a list. This is a tip that comes from horse racing but it can easily apply to football. So having a notebook or if you still buy a newspaper on a Saturday can actually be of real benefit with the following process of elimination vs all that new fangled technology. You're basically trying to give yourself a clearer picture. In a horse race you'd start by crossing off the horses that you think have no chance of winning the race and you begin to narrow down the field. I'm not going to go into the points that would make you cross out a particular horse because this isn't a horse race betting guide and to be fair I don't know an awful lot about betting on horses. You could say I don't know a lot about betting on football to which my counter argument simply runs with maybe not but I do know what is likely to result in the most losing bets and once you've learned on what not to bet on that's going to give you a head start against everyone else. The worst part is it's all really obvious stuff and just pure common sense but we're bombarded with £ signs and talk of potential riches which in reality aren't about to happen for the average bettor. How much you lose before you understand that message fully is up to you and your wallet. 


If you're betting on the J league this weekend as an example write all ten fixtures out as your starting point. If you're not as sad as me and don't have a book of data on all the teams, start by finding some good reference points. Decide what market you are aiming to bet on? Unders goals? Maybe you want to see if you can find the potential of that draw as mentioned above. Do you want two horses in the race and can you find value in a 1 or 2, 1X or 2X bet? Remember you don't have to bet. If you don't find anything you like, wait until the following week. Or if you make selections but are still unsure and don't want to commit financially for now then don't back them, Rome after all wasn't built in a day, or do back them but for the minimum stakes and when you're more comfortable move to one of the systems in the next point below. Whatever you do is entirely up to you but for now it's about narrowing down your focus on where you think you're going to find the best bet or bets which marries the market you want to bet on and using everything you've learned from the guide so far. You've crossed through and eliminated options where you think there's no value to identify 3 or 4 games which may fit the general mould of what you want to bet on and then you start to break down the data further to identify whether the bet actually has a realistic chance of winning. I cannot express enough that if you're not sure then don't bet. You're not missing out on anything. Even if the bet you choose to not bet wins then that's OK. Get used to that feeling. There will be far more examples of bets that you don't place that lose so don't get too caught up in one that got away.


If you're feeling fantastically confident about something, it's so sure fire that it couldn't possibly lose, before you place it just ask that simple question to yourself, have I truly considered the opposing side of the bet? Am I feeding myself a narrative that maybe the data doesn't actually back up? It happens and we all do it. Is there something obvious you're missing? Like when Aston Villa ended up having to field their youth team against Liverpool because of COVID to fulfil the fixture. OK so that one’s somewhat extreme but things do happen. Goalkeepers get injured, first choice keepers might be suspended and the reserve goalkeeper is from the youth team or is now a 38 year old journeyman who's not actually played for three years. 


Staking


Why is staking important firstly? Well you could have ten winning bets in a week but you're 11th staked wrongly could leave you with a losing week overall even if it was the only bet that lost. 


How do you determine the size of your bets? The most famous system often quoted is the Kelly Criterion. I downloaded a book which was just shy of 900 pages on that subject so you'll forgive me if I skip that one for now as I can't bring myself to even start to read it right now. I'd long heard the figure of never betting more than 3% of your bankroll but that appears to have changed with modern day bettors to never betting more than 2% of your bankroll. This is quoted from people who seem to be turning over an awful lot of money every month so if you're just having the odd bet every week you might go back to that 3% especially if that means you're more likely to only be betting on matches where you've done your research and think it stands a genuine chance of winning. I'm not going to talk about finding that magical perceived edge and extra value. At the end of the day as highlighted in the last post of this guide, all betting is merely wagering money on your opinion against someone else's. To be fair that's also true of wagering your money with someone else's opinion but it's still opinion Vs opinion. I also say ‘against someone else's’ there as if it's a person. If you're betting on the premier league you're probably now basing your opinion against a computer algorithm. That algorithm may be able to forecast matches in a way you'll never be able to, taking advantage of a mass of data points to decide outcomes but it doesn't mean they will be right. Unfortunately for the computer the match still involves humans and humans make errors which computers cannot predict in advance and account for. That's of course good news for you the bettor. 


The one staking plan that really made me stop and think was from one of the most respected football tipsters Kevin Pullein, the man who famously will conclude his betting column with the words - no bet. Sometimes it's better to just keep your money in your pocket than it is to have a bet for the sake of it. His staking plan evolves around what you want to win and the more I've mulled it over in my head since I read it a week ago the more it makes sense. Like everything it will come down to what suits you best. I say respected. Respected by people with that degree of common sense. He's like marmite with his columns because people want betting advice and don't take well to someone going just keep hold of your money. Strange but true. Let's park that question and dig deeper on the plans above. 


% of your bankroll


Your average better won't have a bankroll. I never did when I used to bet way more frequently than I do now but in hindsight I wished I had. I was always reloading my account with no sense of control. I never really had any idea of how much it was costing me. So let's say for example you're going to start betting on football from the first weekend of the new season. What is the figure you'd be comfortable with losing each month? That may seem an odd question when you're setting out trying to win but the reality is there's no guarantee you'll end as a winner. So be realistic with the possibility you could lose the lot and that way anything not lost is already an added bonus. So let's say the season lasts ten months and you're comfortable with losing £10 a month. You could deposit £100 into your betting account, you could put £100 into a separate bank account, or probably more sensibly do the second option and then you deposit £10 into your betting account and put a deposit limit for 30 days which means you can't reload your account if you've burned through the entire £10.


Chances are most people reading this are used to betting £1 / £2 accumulators. Well we know from part one of the guide that we're going to be avoiding accumulators all season other than when we're given a freebet which can only be used on accumulators. We're not going to be betting first goalscorers either. In fact, based on betting 2% of your bankroll you're not going to be betting anything near £1 or £2 unless you start winning. Your maximum opening bet is going to be £0.20 which may well come as the ultimate culture shock but by now if you're reading every single post in this guide your expected ROI on football betting is realistically going to be around 3.5% if you followed the advice of the best football tipsters and paid a premium for that information. That’s right if you're only reading this for the first time you're expected return on that £100 bankroll is £3.50. You know all those videos that promise to make you rich. Well guess what? Unless you can trade huge sums of money with a high turnover it's never going to happen. Say you turnover £100,000 of bets in a month and return £3,500 on average then that's going to be a good figure. We'd all like £3,500 a month right? Maybe not when you factor in having to turnover £100,000 a month with no guarantees. If the penny is only now dropping, maybe just don't bet on football at all. If it seems like hard work that's because it is and if something seems too good to be true, guess what - that's because 99.9% of the time it is. Also note that point about charges for tipping services and also read the blog about affiliates who benefit from your losses. It's possible to make money from football betting but the three beat options are to gain a bookmakers licence from the Gambling Commission, charge for tips or earn from other people's misery. 


If you hit a run of winners from the off you're increasing the value of your 2%. Of course if you're losing you're decreasing the value of your 2%. Remember you've a month ahead so if you've four weekends in the month you'd average it out to ensure you're not betting anymore than £2.50 every weekend. If you finish the month back on £0 so be it. If you've broken into the remaining £90 before the end of month one just know that £100 overall is quickly going to turn into a hole of £200 or £300 with the blink of an eye. Five weekends of betting - £2 maximum. Most people once they're tracking their bets and holding their limits will go to one of two ends of the spectrum; One person will become less calculated and ignore all the advice and start to bet on events they know nothing about, or anything they have a feeling might win with higher odds or as it's more commonly known - chasing your losses. The next person might then start spending far too much time thinking about what they're going to bet on. Yes you should always follow the data, but time is more precious than money at this level of staking. If you're overthinking it, remember spending more time with your partner, children, friends and family is the best bet you'll ever make. Try to find a centre ground but definitely weighted towards the latter of the two. The more you get used to looking for better bets the easier it will become. 


Remember you're now going to be recording everything you bet on. Check this each week to see what worked and what went wrong. Too many in play bets where you're still laying money on that feeling? When it's written in front of you it's going to give you that slap you need. Everyone can remember the times betting on that feeling  had worked, no one remembers that long list of every time that it didn't. 


Expected returns


I'm going to propose an imaginary scenario. You're paid to carry out a questionnaire on behalf of a betting company. You stop everyone that walks past over 18 irrespective of who they are. You're not trying to look for someone that might know anything about gambling, you just want to get a sense for the average person's sensibilities when it comes to gambling. 


Five simple questions;


Would you wager £1 for the chance to win £1

Would you wager £2 for the chance to win £1

Would you wager £5 for the chance to win £1

Would you wager £10 for the chance to win £1

Would you wager £20 for the chance to win £1


I've used the word wager rather than bet. That stops those who will simply say ‘I don't bet.’ 


You could have a range of answers to the questions on a spectrum from yes to no, to include say - a maybe. This isn't about trying to land a man on the moon which clearly requires a huge scientific approach, it's merely a hypothetical you understand. 


If you're reading this guide part by part, you should be now thinking of the tennis ball and the brick wall analogy where the size of the hole becomes in your favour. Most average people you'd suggest even with the word wager would say no to all the questions posed above. Then at evens money which is the coin toss equivalent you'd get the most yes’, a few maybes on the 1/2s and then as the cost gets higher the more the answers will be a straight no, but you by now will know with the help of this guide that the higher the cost in this instance the greater the perceived probability of you taking back your £10 and the shiny £1 to boot. You'd be the one saying no to the opening questions and then saying yes at the end the higher that second number gets. You could still lose but a 1/10 is like backing Manchester City to beat Burton Albion at home. 


I'm hoping that's a nice segue to the next staking plan which has really made me think all week. So over to Kevin Pullein, he of racing post fame. Regular readers will know I'll use the £1, €1 or $1 example because it's a nice easy figure and keeps it realistic for the majority of people reading these posts. 


So you first pick an amount you want to win from every bet you place and your stakes will match accordingly to the one figure. If you're going, is that it? That's what has kept you thinking all week? Well firstly I've of course thought of other things so don't be pedantic it doesn't suit you. Secondly you can read my reasoning or you can go away and mull it over and go on the same journey I went on in my head. Hopefully either way the penny will drop. 


So using my £1 example or whatever currency you're betting in, let's cross off the more obvious odds on offer and what you'd stake for that level of return. 


Evens £1

£0.50 2/1

£0.25 4/1

£0.20 5/1

£0.10 10/1

£0.05 20/1


That should be pretty logical. The higher the risk the less the stake and vice versa. 


The flip side is for the odds on part which is what got me really thinking. Then it really becomes about doing your homework and being disciplined. That's real money management and that's what this guide is about more than anything else. If the average person would answer maybe to wagering £2 to win £1, if that became your entire premise of betting for an entire season, could you stick to it, or would you crack quickly and revert to type? If you're suddenly faced with bets of £5 to win £1, so ⅕ odds or 1.20 on the decimal how many times would you be willing to take that bet? It's the better bet mathematically and from a probability point of view. If you develop that Uber level of discipline and your bank roll is just £10 a month, that could mean you only place two bets every month or 20 in an entire season. If you won every ⅕ shot you'd turn your £100 into £120 which again seems a tiny return but if you managed it you'd be able to claim through discipline you were achieving five times the return as the best football tipsters with their 3.5% ROI. Retraining your brain and your way of thinking is hard. Really hard. It's that little voice going but what if we lose? That little voice should be going but what if we lose every time you bet £2 on a 50/1 accumulator. In fact that voice needs to be asking you why you're not putting the money on the lottery. If you're going to piss in the wind might as well be for millions that you'll never win. Put yourself in the shoes of a marathon runner or a boxer. To not just win, but to win consistently takes maximum effort, concentration and seriously hard graft. The only people who get rich overnight are when they're the sole heirs to a fortune and someone dies. 


I've used the easy examples but I appreciate that odds such as 4/7 or 4/11 become harder for some to work out what you should be staking so let's do the maths.


We'll use the 100 pennies in the pound to make it easier again. 


Odds of 4/11 to determine the stake to win £1


4 divided by 11 = 0.3636

0.3636 + 1 = 1.3636 (decimal odds)

100 (expected return) divided by 1.3636 = 73.34

73.34 divided by 100 = £0.73 rounded to the nearest figure up or down as appropriate (required stake)


If you want to check your maths £0.73 * decimal odds £1.3636 = £0.9954 which rounded up is your £1 return. 


Let's do one more with 4/9


4/9 = 0.4444

Add 1 to make it a decimal odds 1.4444

100/1.4444 = 69.23

You can simplify this last section and remove the last two digits and simply add £0. to the front to give you £0.69


Don't tell me about the bets you've won


This isn't merely a lesson about humility or though maybe it should be. Don't tell me about bets you've won because I don't fucking care. I can't put money on it, the event is gone. I can be happy for you but I'm not likely to learn anything of value from it. However I'd be stupid to not listen to the bets you've lost. I'm not talking about the woe is me if only x,y,z had happened type losses. I'm talking about the losses from people who've thought out the bets in the first place, those who have a valid strategy. Think like a bookmaker. What is going to pay out for me long term. Where am I going to find the margins that will give me the 3.5% returns. You've done your homework and you've been betting the over 2.5 goals market and you're hopeless at it until someone points out you're actually a natural born handicapper for the under 2.5 goals market. If you're not looking for something you'll continue to miss it until it's hopefully pointed out to you. I've lost count of the times in my younger days where someone has pointed out that a girl was really interested in me and I didn't have a clue. I'm like why didn't you tell me? The answer would usually be - because it was fucking obvious. Well it wasn't obvious to me. That's true of all our lives and betting is no exception. That tip originated from poker circles where getting advice on how to have played a hand from players more experienced becomes way more valuable than anything you won. Winning isn't always measured in instant financial terms. Learning is winning, finding like minded individuals is winning, sharing experiences and knowledge is winning. Telling me you won a 50/1 accumulator is no really no fucking good to me because you won't repeat that trick every week I can promise you that for nothing. However if you had lost, showed me your working out and your logic then I might find the part you were missing. I might find a market I've never thought to bet in, be that type of bet or a league which is producing consistent results but maybe you're coming at the problem from the wrong angle. 


I joke about finding out you're the best under 2.5 goals handicapper going but there's always an element of truth in that. As I say, think like the bookmaker. This guide has already highlighted that the accumulator was invented by the bookmaker as an easier way to take your money. That they price according to the basic psychology of wanting more not less. So what are the areas I know as a bookmaker will pay off for me every week consistently and how as a bettor can I turn that to my advantage? What am I constantly losing money on and ask yourself that simple question - what if I took the opposite position? You can't do that on an accumulator obviously unless you're a trader or a bookmaker but if you're constantly coming up short on the overs then you are actually good at picking the unders, you've just never had it pointed out to you and why that's an advantage. 




Wednesday, 17 July 2024

YouTube reference videos

I wanted to come up with a list of videos I've actually found to be of some relevance or carry some potential use to readers. I've watched an awful lot of videos in the last month and so far it's an incredibly short pool I've found held any value at all. A lot talk about expected value which is ironic given I've not listed any of those here below. I appreciate there's a danger they could be perceived as merely an echo chamber of the message this guide is trying to put across but I hope if you've read everything posted you've by now realised the only agenda I want to push is to stop you betting in a manner which the bookmakers love. I try to be as open and honest as possible. I've made six bets in the last week or two which I'm really angry about because each one goes against the grain of the advice held within this blog. Five lost and one is an ante post bet and I'm going - dick head, you never learn. So I'm as fallible as the next person, in fact even more so because I can at least speak with authority that I'm consistently a ‘dick head’ season in, season out. Hopefully if that sounds familiar to your own situation you learn faster than I do. 


So before the list, a quick recap for you dear reader but mostly for me the writer;


Stop making bets when you're bored or watching sports.

Stop making bets when you have that feeling something is going to happen in play. 

Stop betting the names. STOP BETTING THE NAMES. 

If you've not researched the bet on any level then don't bet it.

Stop listening to opinions. Opinion makers are hired because they're interesting. They're not mathematicians or statisticians. 


Anyways don't mind me. 


YouTube Videos 


Analysing football matches to assist with your predictions


https://youtu.be/c3YKky1aWVU?si=WBnZ-85rDIdzx68C


Probability 


https://youtu.be/XT7PfZHAA0w?si=fXWRNRv84YBfaWXe


Betting mistakes to avoid 


https://youtu.be/k1zj-oiApb8?si=0txrg-z0CNqFLQvO




Tuesday, 16 July 2024

Week 5 Pre game J League modelling predictions

Regular readers will know I've been testing the Poisson distribution method based upon data from the J League. Originally I set out to see if the model could help me with pricing odds. I answered that pretty quickly and no it couldn't, but I was still curious to see if it held any merit as a key indicator of predictions based upon goals scored and XG as the base points. I've run it for four rounds now and whilst the model based on goals scored went well for a couple of weeks, it has nose dived off a cliff the last couple of rounds. So this potentially is the last round of the experiment. Like any betting strategy it has to be understood that it would take full commitment and moreover that it comes with potential losses. For new readers as a marker I've included a very simple model, that of merely betting the favourites in the market noting that the margin for bookmakers naturally sits on a 1X2 market with a home or away win and never the draw. As a reminder this isn't a tipping service, the model and data is purely shown here as a representation of a well known system peddled on the larger majority of videos you'd find on a major platform such as YouTube. As you'd imagine it takes a large degree of time to set up and to input the data after every game to ensure your model remains up to date. For new readers I'm interested in statistics, modelling, patterns and data in general so here I'm doing the hard work for anyone tempted to use the same system thinking it might give them an edge. For an absolute clear picture you'd need to run it over the course of an entire season and I'd suggest not only that but run it for a series of different leagues. It's your time so be my guest if you want to try it. If you do, I'll happily look at the data and analyse it and publish the findings. If you do stumble upon a league where it does work my advice would be to keep that to yourself. Good betting opportunities are always few and far between and if you ever did find a market with an edge, once money flows into it that edge would vanish pretty quickly. I think it's safe to also suggest that the edge you're looking for isn't going to come from this model but that being said I'm wrong about a lot of things. 


What I can suggest on this round in particular is that the model used for the starting odds would be heavily weighted in favour of XG in comparison to goals scored because the XG predictions are exactly the same as those that the bookmaker (in this case Bet365) have down as the favourites in the opening markets. The model based on goals scored has just 2 of 10 rounds the same. Goals scored has it down for 7 of 10 rounds to be away wins. Of course it should be noted that the favourites and XG being the same prediction could merely be a coincidence. It probably should also be noted that last round they didn't marry and the XG model got 1 correct result out of 10. The Bookmakers had their best week with 6 priced favourites winning though as I noted in the blog post being right was probably not a good thing for them in that instance. The XG Model is performing worst of all so if GS can say just 3 of the 7 away wins right and 1 home right it should actually return a profit. However it picked 3 the last round out. Still this is an excel spreadsheet and I sound like I'm trying to talk myself into doing something stupid like betting on the ten rounds so I'll stop and just post the predictions. 


For the full experiment breakdown of monies placed et al use the following link;


https://anegitsguidetofootballbetting.blogspot.com/2024/07/week-4-pre-game-j-league-modelling.html


Predictions are shown as the side favourite with the bookmaker - Goals scored model - XG Model


Kashima v FC Tokyo 1 - 2 - 1

Machida v Yokohama 1 - 2 - 1

Avispa v Tokyo 1 - 2 - 1

Cerezo v Albirex 1 - 2 - 1

Gamba v Shonan 1 - 2 - 1

Jubilo v Kyoto 1 - 2 - 1

Kashiwa v Kawasaki 1 - 1 - 1

Urawa v Hokkaido 1 - 2 - 1

Vissel v Nagoya 1 - 1 - 1

Sagan v Sanfrecce 2 - 1 - 2


Results will be updated after the weekend. As always if you're of a distrusting nature screenshot above and check after to see I've not altered what's shown above. I'll repeat I'm not a tipping service and I'd not encourage anyone to bet on the above and it's used only for modelling purposes and as a learning and testing tool. 


20th July update


One game to go in the round. I could only laugh when I saw the results. I said I nearly talked myself into something stupid. I didn't, but it's a good measure of not betting something and how to deal with the results.


Favourites with the bookmakers


Game 1 @ 1.75


Goals scored model


Correct predictions; 2,3,4,5,6 and 8 @ 4.2, 3.6, 3.5, 4, 3.10, 5.5 so for now outlay £9 and returns of £23.90 (+£14.90).


XG Model


As Bookmakers results




Friday, 12 July 2024

Betting case study 3: Sanfrecce v Avispa

I heard a story on a podcast about two colleagues who day after day would argue with each other over any number of given topics but remarkably never fell out about anything. How so you may ask and as always you might also ask with any point I make, what relevance does this have with betting on football? Well take my hand and we'll take a wander down the wonderful path that leads to my world of logic when it comes to these things. 

So why didn't they fall out? With arguments there are generally two opposing positions to be taken. Both parties will naturally start by thinking they're correct. You might get someone to change their mind but what usually happens is if they're friends the two parties simply agree to disagree and where people aren't friends there's the possibility of a massive falling out. Now these two colleagues would on day 1 argue their positions, sorry maybe I should say they present their opinions on a topic of discussion and then on day 2 they reconvene and they have to take the complete reverse stance on the subject and repeat the process arguing against the position they so strongly defended the day before. As the saying goes;

“If you can't intelligently argue for both sides of an issue, you don't understand the issue well enough to argue for either.”

So what's this got to do with making bets? Well remember the post prior to Gamba v Machida where I was of the opinion that Gamba were a better bet despite the market suggesting otherwise, we’ll I've got another example. Last time I don't think I really argued either. I just listed a whole lot of evidence that I couldn't separate. This for me is a visibility of thinking any tipster should be able to provide you with if they've made a tip on a game. That Gamba post for anyone interested can be read here;

https://anegitsguidetofootballbetting.blogspot.com/2024/06/betting-case-study-1-gamba-osaka-v.html

The game in question is Sanfrecce v Avispa. Going into the weekend they sit 7th and 6th separated by 1 solitary point. From the league table position alone you could surmise it's a 50/50 game. Home advantage will however more than likely tip the balance slightly in the favour of Sanfrecce. If I had any friends I'd ask them to do this with me but I don't have any so it's Kramer v Kramer except I'm both the Kramer's. Alright I might have one friend but they've no interest in betting and certainly not on J league football. Before you say it I know a 1X2 is not 50/50 either.

You may correctly surmise that I think Avispa are massively overpriced at 6.50 in this instance. I'm also a little fixated on their away defensive record but for today I'm not arguing for Avispa. 

Argument for Sanfrecce 

I think the Hiroshima based side will capitalise on their offensive superiority in this game which warrants them starting currently 1.53 on the decimal. At home they've only lost 3 of 11 games which is just over 1 in every four at 27.27%. If they continue with that form they'll lose only 5 out of their 19 home games this season. That means they have of course been undefeated in 8 games to date of which they've won 5 and drawn 3, however it can be argued that they've won less than 50% of their games. 

They've scored an average of 2 goals per home game though that statistic is inflated by a 4-0 win against Sagan and a 4-1 win against Tokyo Verdy. Those other three wins were all 2-0. They've scored twice on two other occasions but drew 1 and lost the other 2-3. Every game has been above 1.5 goals however they're playing the team with the best defensive record in the division away from home. They are playing against a side who are scoring on average 1 goal per game away from home. 

Their goal difference at home is a healthy plus 8. As previously highlighted they're one place below Avispa in the league and 1 point behind so a win will take them above them. Head to head record they drew 1-1 in the reverse fixture so they know they can score against Avispa and they've home advantage this time around. In the J League their last results head to head have been DWWWWD with the last loss coming April 24th, 2021. If you throw in the two Cup games they've also contested that extends the record since Avispa last won to 8 with one draw and one win. 

Based on Opta power rankings Sanfrecce are rated the number 2 club in the J League. Fotmob also rank them as the second best club in the league. 

Sanfrecce are the top scoring side in the J League after 22 games, they're also the top joint scorers at home with 22 goals. So it's the best offence in terms of goals scored kicking off against the best defence. They've 14 individual scorers so they're not reliant on one player to score. They've the 4th best XG at 34.7 and have the most shots on target per match at 5.7. 

XG conceded is 18th of 20 clubs at 21.5 and have conceded 24 so a little over 1 goals per game. Saves per match are just 2, total saves for the season 45 so their keeper isn't overrun with pressure. So against your average side you'd expect their average of 1.7 goals per game which is the highest in the J League is going to be good enough to see all 3 points for a home win. We know though that they only scored 1 in the 1-1 draw earlier this season so head to head in this metric they underperformed against Avispa. 

Avispa have had a bad week losing to Kyoto at home 2-1 though I'd maybe caveat that with saying the winner came 9 minutes in additional time. They also lost midweek in the Cup 2-0 to Ehime having been reduced to 10 in the 55th minute. Full team news wasn't shown so I can't compare the two sides but flip side that and the players will surely be desperate to put things right against Sanfrecce. Presumably the player sent off is suspended for this encounter but he didn't start against Kyoto and isn't a regular starter. Lastly Avispa were playing against J League 2 opposition so another caveat that they may well have started a weakened team with this fixture in mind. 

Argument for Avispa 

Avispa are heavily overpriced and should actually start the game at 7/4 with Sanfrecce 11/10 or maybe even reverse the two if you're a little less risk averse. Avispa have won 5 out of the last 8 games in the J League, drawing once and losing twice compared to just 3 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses. Trade that record of the last eight games to home v away and Avispa have lost just once in the last eight away games, winning four and drawing 3. Sanfrecce by comparison have 3 wins, 2 draws and 3 losses at home so by either metric of form, be that all games or home and away they rank ahead of Sanfrecce. 

Avispa have the most clean sheets of any J league club with 10. They've the third best away record and 2X has landed 80%. They've the best away defensive record conceding 6 times, however they've managed to score on average of 1 a game so their issues are offensively rather than defensively on the road. 

On a basic model of form converted into probability based on the last 8 games and then 8 games away Vs Sanfrecce at home the odds would be as follows;

Last 8 games 

1 - 3.20 X - 4.00 2 - 2.29 

Last 8 games home / away

1 - 3.75 X - 3.20 2 - 2.29 

So with those metrics Avispa are favourites by the same price on the decimal, home and away form makes the draw the better price than a home win of the two and the last game finished 1-1 but Avispa on form remain the clear favourites. 

Avispa have only lost two halves of football away from home in their ten games so one in every ten halves played. In fact at home they've lost five halves albeit two of those were in the one game against Cerezo when they went in 2-0 down and lost 3-0. Their away form is much better than their home form. If you're not losing either half in an away game how can you argue that Sanfrecce should start as clear favourites as the markets show?

This of course now does become a challenge in that I'm technically arguing with myself which is nothing new in my head but let's just say for this experiment we've reversed positions and we'll add a couple more examples.

On a basic model to determine power ratings offensively for each side based on goals scored and XG against the league average the predictions by % for 1X2 are as follows;

Goals scored 

1 - 51.28

X - 23.94

2 - 24.78

XG

1 - 29.56

X - 32.77

2 - 37.67

The main argument would be this is a side who scores goals at home and to win a game that's a natural advantage. 

The counter argument or course is if you're keeping clean sheets then you can't lose a game and they've scored an average of 1 goal a game so you could make an argument for a 1-0 away win.

The main counter argument would sit with form and over the last eight games and the last 8 specifically away for Avispa they're the form side and if this was a 50/50 pick and home advantage tips it towards Sanfrecce, then form at least puts it back to evens or in slight favour of Avispa. I'd concede the argument of home advantage meaning the bookmakers make Sanfrecce favourites but not clear favourites.

But Avispa haven't won this fixture in the last 8 in all competitions. How many Avispa players carry the ghosts of Christmas past and how many players have featured in all of those games if any? I don't buy into that being a deciding contributory factor. 

For balance despite one great set of home offence statistics and the same for defence on the other the league table shows 6th plays 7th and Avispa are sixth and a difference of a single point. After 22 games Avispa have scored 23, conceded 20 so you'd average it to 1-1 but we know that's not how football works. It did for the first game. Well yes but now you're being petty. 

If I had any friends we could discuss the relative merits of all arguments and data presented. Does the defensive away record translate into away wins? It does but only to the extent of 50% of games won which is a better percentage of Sanfrecce games won at home even with the better offensive record. Goals don't always mean wins whereas defence has resulted in a win or a draw. You mentioned Avispa's 2X record is 80% so who did they lose to and is that relevant? Urawa 2-1 and Vissel 1-0. Vissel are 4th and rated one of the best sides in the league. Anything else? Machida who remain top going into the weekend could only draw 0-0 with them a couple of games ago. 

Are there any markers we can agree on? Well despite Sanfrecce having scored the most goals at home it doesn't equate to them having the best home record in the league. Goals scored won't equate to home wins if they can't keep clean sheets. Avispa clean sheets and conceding just 6 times however has translated into them having the 3rd best record in the league. Avispa are the form team over the last 8 games by both metrics. All the markets are weighted the same way so we're either missing something or everyone is copying the same line and making slight adjustments. 

Are there any metrics you don't put any weight or importance on such as historical head to head records? The first game played should hold more weight than anything that happened last season and moreover certainly anything before that. For each season you've different players, maybe different managers which can mean different playing styles. 

We've not watched either side so can we gauge anything by the data? Is there a danger we're potentially betting the team and not the data? Looking at Avispa's record home and away you'd suggest they set up differently away from home. Certainly in the win against FC Tokyo and draw against Machida they conceded the ball in terms of possession but against Yokohama at home that was also true so I'd surmise they look to hit the opposition on the break. So do Sanfrecce play possession based football? Looking at the data based on average possession which is the percentage of passes made between each side on a given game, the recent record suggests they're also set to counter attack so potentially that nullifies both teams game plans and it may be neither side is overly comfortable with wanting the ball. Given Sanfrecce top the charts for goals scored etc maybe they're just uber efficient in their build up play and don't like to build from the back where you might find more passes and the same with midfield. Data can only tell you so much. Have we had eyes on? No. Do we know anything about either side to maybe create bias and make us bet the name? No, not in the J League. I don't know my Albirex from my Ehime. Is that you trying to be clever substituting arse for elbow with teams starting with A and E? Yes, yes it is. Try not to look so proud of yourself. 

Is there potentially any value elsewhere to be found? Draw no bet? 2X? Say the position on Avispa is correct and they are overpriced but you want to lessen your liabilities. Are there any other prices that could be taken?

2X = 2.37

DNB = 4.25

Anything else? Sanfrecce games at home have all finished over 1.5 goals. This would have hit in the reverse fixture. OK but they're playing the best defence in the league does this nullify the record and is the 1.5 dependent more on their goals scored rather than goals conceded because if it's the later Avispa are only scoring an average of 1 goal a game. 

If you didn't already know the market prices and I said you could have evens on every choice what would you bet? Being naturally cautious I'd take 2X based on their defensive record and it hitting 80% to date.

Is there something we're missing or we've not discussed? Well I can't find any news that Avispa will be missing key players through suspension or injury. It should be noted Sanfrecce have the most draws in the league level with Tokyo Verdy on 10. 

Would you bet £100 on Avispa to win? No. £50? No. £10? No. £5 maybe. £5 on 2X Maybe but certainly I'd take more of a chance than £5 on the single. £1 to see if you were right? More than probably but if I do that 50 times a season there's a good probability I could be £50 down and very wrong. FOMO? What should we tell ourselves here? There's always another bet. 

What else should we be telling ourselves? We've spent too much time on a game when we should have concentrated on any one of the other 9 being played. 

Did you bet the outsider last time you thought you were right? Yes. Were you right? No, but they were 1-0 up before they went down to ten men and I couldn't legislate for that prior to making the bet? Couldn't you? No, of course not. How about If you hadn't taken the bet, isn't that legislating? Look, you're a voice in my head so shut up. No you're a voice in my head you shut up. Did potentially being right before the sending off cost you money? Yes it did. What's your current record of betting the rank outsiders and losing? 100% but before you go on that's our record because we are talking to ourselves. Touche. 

So in conclusion you've seen a visibility of thinking. Anyone offering a tip should be able to provide this if asked. Remember bookmakers are after your money when they present any form of data which reads as if they're trying to help you find a winning bet. What's shown above I'd argue is about as much of a deep dive as you're likely to be presented with without going into individual line ups as matchups and looking into individual lines which may only provide a 0.5% advantage or disadvantage depending on where your money is heading. 

Clearly for the second highlighted example game there's someone I'm clearly missing but again I don't know what it is. 

If you do have someone who shares an interest in the same league then pool your knowledge and resources. That second opinion, or third or fourth will be really valuable. It could also be pointless if you at least don't share some similar sort of thinking. 

If you're looking for entertainment over long term financial reward and you agree with my argument about Avispa then take the bet. You'll find the game online. YouTube frequently show the games in full, Bet365 will show the game. If I'm right, returns on £1 are £6.50. I'm not tipping it by the way. I'm merely giving you my visibility of thinking, I'm not a tipster and my current record is 100% lost. Try follow my advice on what types of bets to avoid, definitely ignore my rambling generalisations where I might sound like I've made a good point where you could be let thinking maybe he's right. The gap in odds suggests the clear opposite and that I'm trumpeting loudly out of my arse. 

Best option appears to be to hedge your bets. Have it as a lesson in FOMO. If it wins you can say I told you so. If it loses, try and see if you can identify what that huge difference in prices boiled down to - that's probably the most valuable piece of information not anything financial. I'd argue that if I saw Gamba Vs Hokkaido being played with the same odds on offer that they're warranted. I'm not changing my mind that the market is wrong even if there's an argument to make Sanfrecce favourites. In fact Hokkaido are 6.25 at home to Vissel at 1.42 this weekend. These two games don't marry with each other where there's that huge gap. 

14th July update 

Looking at something else on footystats I noticed they've two listings, one of current odds and one of form and their latter suggests on form the odds are 1.64 to 1.80 which at least makes me think I'm not going daft and that Avispa are massively overpriced at 6.5

15th July update

Final score 1-0 from which I'll conclude at least that the bookmakers had priced the away leg wrong. The gap was never as wide as the markets suggested. Yes the result went their way but the goal came in minute 60 and Avispa finished the game with the higher XG. Two shots on target for both sides. 

There is definitely value to be found in the J League however. I know I only mentioned Gamba above in the context of the first example of this type and this might sound like after timing but they're a side who do represent value and I'd suggest Avispa away against a side in the lower half of the table will do the same in the future. 


An idiots guide to betting on football Part 7

Discipline It's been a good month or more since I wrote my last post and the underlying reason is I've been busy taking my own advic...